Homemade Bib Hanger - Detailed Instructions
Aug 28 2001
Buy a couple feet of 1 1/2 inch (inside diameter)flexible pvc pipe or any flexible tubing, a band clamp and an S-hook. very cheap.
Make a cut with a hand saw about 3-4 inches lengthwise (split it). Don't split it in half, just cut it down one side. Then cut off about 3 inches of pipe (across).
Imagine now that you unroll the tube. With nippers, scissors, saw, whatever, cut out one quadrant of the plastic. In other words, if unrolled, measure down one side 1 1/2 inch and measure over 1/2 way across (about 2.36 inches on a 1 1/2 in ID pipe). Cut out this part.
Wrap your penis with a protective covering; Theraband, cloth etc. Wrap the pvc around the penis with the head in the cut out part. Mark on the pvc the area which will directly impact the head if the pvc is pushed forward. Trace this area on the pvc. In other words trace the head on the pvc. Cut out this area. This cut should look like a flat U unless your penis head is weird. Sometimes a small V is more comfortable. Also mark the excess pvc on one side. The plastic needs to overlap only about 1/2 inch. Also mark the areas to the left and right of the head which might be in the way. Leave the pvc below the head; i.e., the pvc that the head rests on.
Bevel all edges and corners by sanding or grinding, especially the area of contact around the head. Also be sure to bevel the edges so they will slide easily across each other.
Drill a hole in the middle of the pvc which sticks out under the head and attach an S-hook. This is what you attach the weights to (after attaching the hanger to the penis).
Put on the protective covering, and wrap the tube around your penis again. Then put the band clamp on 1/4 to 1/2 inch behind the head. The band clamp can be attached to the pvc with a recessed screw.
Do not overtighten. Experiment with the pressure versus the amount of weight you want to hang. Make sure you have enough pressure to keep the hanger from slipping off.
This hanger will allow fairly heavy weights so be careful. With this hanger, a lot of weight is still on the area behind the head. Always check the head color and check for cold or numbness. I personally have never hung more than 15 lbs. for 20 minutes with this hanger.
If it doesn't work or feel right, just start over. The pvc is cheap.
I probably left out stuff, so if you don't understand, ask questions.
Theraband is a rubber like material that comes in rolls 6 in wide by either 6 or 18 feet. It is used for resistance exercise in rehabilitation. It can be found at many medical supply houses or ordered off the web www.therapyshoppe.com/theraband.html
The device is based on flexible pvc pipe (1 1/4 inch for me), but other rubber tubing can be used.
- Split the pipe (straight) with a hand saw for several inches.
- Then cut a piece off about 3 inches long.
- Go ahead and wrap your penis with the Theraband, or cloth, or anything for protection and to gather the skin.
- Put the pvc around your penis, overlap the cut sides and mark the areas which need to be removed; Give plenty of room for behind the top of the head. Only about 1 1/2 inch needs to wrap around the penis. The bottom of the head rests on the remainder.
- Then drill a hole in the end of the remainder to insert a hook.
- Either sand or grind down the edges of the cut sides so they will slide easily across each other. Also sand or grind down all corners and the edge which contacts the area around the head (Theraband first).
- Place a band clamp around pvc with the screw on top. The band clamp can be attached to the pipe with a recessed screw for ease of attachment. Caution!! Experiment slowly with the pressure vs. weight. Do not overtighten!! This device still places a majority of the pressure on the head and you shouldn.t use much weight.
- .Buy a two or three foot piece of tubing so you will have plenty. Flexible Pvc or strong rubber at least 1 1/2 in diameter will do. It is very cheap.
- First split the tubing length ways with a hand saw.
- Then cut off about three inches of the pipe.
- Wrap your penis for protection, and then wrap the tubing around your penis.
- Mark a spot on each end, allowing for a 1/2 inch overlap or greater. Cut off the excess.
- Next you want to cut out an area to allow the head to escape.
- Measure down one side about 1 inch and then over about 1/2 the width of the total tube; a curved rectangle.(in other words imagine the tube laying out flat).
- Cut out this area with a saw, or nippers etc. Wrap the tubing around your penis again with the cut ends on one side or the other and the head in the cut out rectangle.
- Mark on the top of the tube the areas that would immediately impact the head.
- Take off the tubing and cut out this area using strong scissors, nippers or a table grinder. The cut out area should be U shaped (unless your penis is weird). There should be 1 1/2 inches of tubing or more under the head.
- Drill a hole in this part to attach an S hook, or string to attach the weights. Make sure the hook or string cannot pinch or interfere with the head.
- Put a band clamp around the non-cutout portion of the tubing to attach. Follow the warnings above about problems. Make sure you wrap your penis with some protective material before attaching.
Sorry for my earlier post, Imagine your penis lying in a 3 inch trough (flexible pvc or rubber tubing) with the tip of the head at the far end. (You are looking down at the top side). Then just behind the head, another shorter (1 1/2-1 3/4 inch) upside down trough covers about 1 1/2 inch of the top of the penis.
The top, upside down trough slightly overlaps the bottom trough on one side (because there are not actually two troughs. The head then will only be 1/2 covered by pvc (the bottom) and the area behind the head will be in a tube. This is where the band clamp is placed. The U cut out is a tracing of the glans on the top back of the head. A U cut will give more comfort than a straight cut. Also it will be more comfortable to bevel (sand of grind) the edge of the U.
The pvc trough that the head lays in is where a hole can be drilled to insert an S-hook. The sides of this area can also be trimmed if the head is too large to fit in comfort.
The tubing is flexible enough to pry open the cut side in order to insert the wrapped penis.
Saying the head sticks through a hole was not accurate. Sorry.
Pictures: New link
Edited by: Bib at: 9/24/01 9:33:51 pm
Aug 28 2001
Wrap the Theraband starting about 1/2 inch below the head. Make a couple wraps straight around and then spiral the rest toward your body. Wrap far enough that the hanger only contacts the wrap and not skin. Also, do not wrap too tight. Hold the wrap in place with a piece of tape. Put the hanger on with the U or Vabout ¾-1 inch from the head; 1/4 inch down on the wrap. Tighten the screw and test for slippage. Continue to tighten and test until it is comfortable and feels like it will hold. You may have to allow the head to swell a little after wrapping to prevent slipping.
Start with two lbs.. Don't hang for more than twenty minutes and rest for ten minutes. If everything is ok, you can add 1 lb a week.
Edited by: Bib at: 8/28/01 4:01:32 am
Aug 28 2001
Re: Homemade Bibhanger
Originally Posted by HnS
How do I tell if I am overworking? After my workouts, I only feel a little soreness in the ligs when I push against my pubic bone. Other than that just a little tenderness in the skin.
That is almost exactly the way I would describe how you should feel after work. You should also be fatigued in the shaft from time to time. Overworking would be hanging at a higher weight, having erection failure, head problems (numbness), or any PAIN in the area after work.
Originally Posted by HnS
There are times when i'll hook up 10-12lbs and I feel like I couldn't add another pound(usually from skin pulls or pressure points) but after I finished I hardly feel worked out enough . Then there are the times that I'll put on 20-25lbs and it feels very comfortable and bearable and I get a good stretch. I know I moved up rather quickly but to get any kind of worked out feeling I need the heavy weight.
First the feelings about how much you can handle are not unusual. I should have asked if you had gained anything lately, or if you are on a plateau.
I have not talked about this much because it is an inexact science, and I have only had the one experience. But the first thing you have to do in hanging is drive toward stressing the areas which benefit (gain)from the stresses. The skin is easy to stretch, but can be limiting until it is. The area where you wrap and where the hanger is attached will affect how much the skin is stretched.
Concerning the ligs and shaft, you may have to hang heavier weight during a period in order to break through a set of LFs. Then you may not be able to hang this max weight again for a day or two or even longer. A lower weight may give good stresses for this period because with the tougher LFs out of the way, the subsequent LFs are not as tough. Realize, there are many of these situations in microareas all through the ligs and shaft.
In talking with others, it seems that the need to lower weight is a good sign. Described as an 'electric' feeling, it appears that good stretches occur during these periods. The key is not to push things and overdo. When you simply cannot hang your max weight, or there is discomfort, move down. If you have to move down to less than one half your max weight, then stop in order to avoid overstress. Do not fight it.
Using heat will insure you are stressing pliable tissues and help you to avoid overstress. It will also give more results with an equal amount of work.
Realize also when you change angles of hang, this will present new stresses that will require consideration of the amount which you can use. The max stretch I found was to have my butt over the edge of the chair with the weight hanging straight down, penis between my balls, and between my cheeks. Then I did lower ab crunches, pulling the weight up. Oh lawd!! This is a very advanced technique and must be worked up to. Lower weight MUST be used.
The only one who knows how much weight to use is the individual hanger. There are times when lower weights for longer periods is more beneficial than heavy weight for shorter periods. I found I could usually hang my max weight in the mornings up until 11:00-12:00 a.m.. Then I would have to hang progressively lighter weight into the afternoon. Generally, if I wanted to hang some at night, I would have recovered enough from the days work to hang my max weight for short periods. Sometimes, I would go several days where I could not hang my max. The key is whether or not you can feel the stress. If you can't, then change because you are probably wasting your time.
Finally, you should try and make sure you are not limited in weight from hanger attachment problems. Pinching or any pain from the hanger is counterproductive and can skew your perception of the amount of stress. As I always say, the best thing you can do in PE is become attuned to what you are feeling. Learn to read these feelings; know exactly where they are and why they are occurring. If there is a hanger problem, fix it before proceeding.
Originally Posted by HnS
Erection problems is another story. It seems like I never get 100% hard anymore. I have been mainly hanging and only jelq occasionally now. When I first started jelqing though I would wake out of my sleep with rock hard erections.
This is another tough area and one which makes me leery of giving weight recommendations. First, it seems I had the softer erections always when in a period of gain. This could last for a couple weeks.
But I also had erection problems from abuse due to bad hangers (bruising) or overstressing. When you stress/stretch your penis, you are also stressing/stretching the nerves. If you have any growth, you must be aware that the nerves involved must also be changing, at least to a certain extent. Using common sense, the nerves will also be a limiting factor. This is why if you ever have erection problems due to decreased sensitivity, you must take time off until things return to normal. No question.
These areas are the toughest things to talk about in PE because they go directly to the risk/reward relationship. You ask good detailed questions. The more detail and information you can provide, the more I can say. Everyone must realize however that this is an individual thing.
Aug 28 2001
First, continue to remember to be patient. Hanging a roll of duct tape it good. Get the kinks worked out first.
Warning signs. Two classes, three kinds, two are bad and one is good.
First are stresses that are unrelated to enlargement. These are skin irritation, trauma to nerves, vessel damage, bruises, red spots, etc. These are caused by faulty equipment, improper attachment, or overworking. They are bad, but some of this will occur no matter what. Try to limit the amount of blood in the head before attaching the hanger. Be sure the skin is not 'bunched' under the wrap. There should be no pain while hanging. Make sure the hanger is beveled, no sharp edges. Make sure no part of the hanger rides on the top of the shaft, immediately behind the head. If while hanging, something does not feel right, stop. Take of the hanger, and milk to return total circulation.
Second are stresses which cause the enlargement. Stretch marks on the skin, ligament soreness, shaft soreness, general genital fatigue. This means you are working, getting a good stretch and making progress. Do not attempt to increase the workload (time/weight) as long as you feel this. Be sure to rest enough to allow for recovery.
Last are stresses from overwork. This includes pulled or ruptured ligaments, torn tunica, severe bruising. These occur when you lose patience, increase the work load too quickly, have an accident while hanging etc..
a: is it normal for the head to swell up to almost erection size while the shaft stays flaccid?
No. The head should not swell much while hanging, even at five pounds or so. See my post on discoloration. The weight alone is usually enough to restrict blood flow (in and out). Also, the hanger will be tight enough when you hang to limit this.
b: what change of colors are bad...my head went from dark red to a light blue with shades of purple. is this bad?
Yes. Anytime your head becomes dark, take off the hanger and restore circulation. Slight coloring is ok, but keep an eye on it. You had a situation where the inflow of blood was not restricted, but the outflow was restricted. The wrapping and hanger prevented any blood from leaving the head.
c: how can i be sure that the shaft is taking most of the weight? i felt the sensation throughout the whole organ including the head it felt like.
Practice. There is a definite learning curve to hanging. Experiment with different tightness' and hanger placement. You will learn to feel when the pressure is on the head, or the shaft, or both. There should be no discomfort around the head. You may have some discomfort in the shaft and base area from the stretch. It should not be severe. If it is, stop.
d: i hear people talk about 15 minutes but all three times i tried i had to remove it after 10, why?
This is not unusual. As your body adjusts, your penis will become 'stronger'. You will be able to increase time and weight as this occurs.
Aug 28 2001
Originally Posted by TC
I have some questions about hanging and maximizing my time and efforts. I've noticed that hanging weights in different directions limits the amount of weight and causes stresses that are unique for that "posture."
Currently, I only have the time and energy to hang 5 days per week and then for only 3 sets of 20 minutes and yet my ligs in my pube area and the main lig in my cock are sore. That being the case, what would give me the best/most efficient workout for such a limited schedule? Right now I hang for 2 sets of 20min (16lbs) straight down and 1 set of 20min (10lbs) BTC...
I also have a question about how a certain hang directions stress my member. Let's say I was going to hang a certain way, and only that way, for the next year what would my results probably be?
What would happen if I hung only straight down while standing every time?
What would happen if I hung over the shoulder every time?
What would happen if I hung only between the cheeks every time?
Thanks for you patience and sharing your knowledge.
There are several ways to look at these questions. One is the practical, day-to-day, occurrences. Another is the physical changes. Then there are the straight engineering factors. All have to be considered.
Think of the pubic area from a strictly engineering point of view. The tunica, which surrounds the blood cavities, is very tough (hard rubber) and long. It is anchored in the body, close to the prostate. There are different amounts of penis, and therefore tunica held within the body. This is held in by the ligaments attached to the pubic bone (fan shaped) and the tunica on the shaft. Almost like a boom on a crane when erect. The ligaments are like rope bundles. Some of the strands are long, and some shorter. The shorter the fiber, the more stress that fiber takes in an erection. The penis is anchored firmly within the body.
Also in the system are blood vessels (plumbing) and nerves (communications). The goal is to pull out as much tunica as is possible (easy, fast gains) by stretching the ligaments, and also to stretch the tunica and associated structures (harder gains). These other structures, CC, CS, blood vessels, nerves, skin, etc, all are easily stretched. The limiting factors are the tunica and ligaments.
Another goal is to stretch the tough infrastructure without damaging the plumbing or communications. The blood vessels are tough (tear resistant), but easily stretched. The only problem associated with them is the fact that they become narrower as they are stretched, thereby limiting blood flow. The nerves are easily stretched and also easily broken, but also easily regenerated over time. One good reason for taking things slow is to give the nerves time to regenerate. As long as there are small gaps or tears in the nerves, they have no problem rebuilding. When the gaps become large is when one experiences a loss of feeling.
The tunica is fairly consistent, tough, and slow to stretch. It takes time and perseverance.
The ligs vary in toughness. You may have several short, but thin fibers, which are easily broken and/or stretched. This will give fast gains. Or you may have short thick fibers, which are hard to break or stretch immediately (tough gainers). Once these short thick fibers are broken, gains may be easy. Then later, the longer fibers come into play. Or I should say, as the shorter ones are broken or stretched, the longer ones increasingly come into play. As time goes on, more and more fibers are involved at the same time during the stretch. Short ones break or stretch, and the next shortest take more of the load. This is why gains eventually slow down for everyone.
This is also one reason why it takes increasingly higher weights to achieve gains. It is also why some people talk about the ligs becoming tougher. They are somewhat tougher, because they become thicker as they heal. But more than that, each fiber becomes more equal with the other fibers as time goes on, they increasingly resist the stretch in harmony. Then, one must become more refined in his attack. Vary the angles even more. For example: After hanging for several months, a good stress is to hang under each leg, over the side edge of the chair, while seated in an almost BTC position. This greatly stresses each SIDE of the ligament bundle, dividing and conquering. Then, a normal BTC hang will stress the middle of the bundle. The sides are already longer from the side stretch. So the middle then has to take the load. This is just one example.
Each micron of gain is dependent upon breaking the next limiting factor. That next limiting factor may be large or small. This is an argument for going up in weight quickly. Break or stretch each limiting factor before the preceding limiting factor has time to heal and become tougher. But it is a balancing act between gaining and being safe. The relative soreness or fatigue in an area is an indication of what has transpired. If you are very sore in an area, you have pushed it far enough. You need to work on another area for a while (a day or two).
Changes in the limiting factors are also a reason you have to go down in weight from time to time. Your current limiting factor may be one or more tough thick ligament fibers for example. Then, as your maximum weight goes up, one day these fibers fail. When they do, you achieve gains, but also incur the next limiting factors. These next limiting factors may be thinner, or fewer, and require somewhat less weight to break or stretch. That is why from time to time, you just cannot hang the maximum, at a certain angle, that you could previously.
Look at a broad example: You have the tunica hanging straight down. Then on top of that, the ligs are attached, also hanging straight down. Now apply a stress to them. Which structures take the stress first? It depends on their individual lengths. For most (if not all), it is the bundle of ligaments. The shorter ones first. So when hanging straight down or BTC, the tunica may not be affected at all, taking none of the stress. Only the ligaments. Now, as the angle rises, say to hanging straight out, the ligaments take less and less stress and the tunica takes more and more stress. So then when hanging straight up (over the shoulder), most (if not all) will have all the stress on the tunica and the anchor points within the body, and none on the ligaments. Further, hanging over the legs will stress the sides of the tunica, and the anchor points within the body on each side.
The tunica and each individual fiber of the ligaments all have different load capacities. All are subject to a maximum load factor, above which they fail. When they fail, they either stretch or are broken. In either case, the body subsequently repairs them. This repair time varies between fibers and individuals. The key is to control the damage done to the structures and allow time for repair. In order to do this most efficiently, the best way would be one at a time. This is not possible, but the varying angles of stress will allow the most efficient method of stressing individual fibers and therefore achieving the goals.
So now, we know the problems, and what needs to be done. How is the best way to go about it? It depends on the individual and what has transpired before. If you are very sore in the pubic bone area (the ligaments), it is time to work on the tunica and anchor points. This means over the shoulder and legs or straight out, 90 degrees from the body. If the tunica (shaft) and area above the testicles is sore, it is time for straight down or BTC.
The above is very generalized. There are subcategories of stresses that can be applied to give the most efficient types of work.
Originally Posted by RWD
Thanks for the tip. One thing I am still concerned about is the fairly rapid
discolouration of the head, especially last night when I finally hung 7.5 lbs.
I think it was not more than 10 to 15 minutes that it was at the point where I
felt I need to dismount the hanger. I'm not sure how this will translate as I
go to even higher weights, but we'll see. It would seem to require even more
tightening which may accelerate discolouration during hanging.
Actually, the hanger is designed to allow for blood flow, even when very tight. The problem with lack of blood flow to the head comes when the hanger is too loose and slides too far down to the head and cuts off all blood flow to the head. I probably have not made that clear.
Lets say you want to hang 7.5 lbs. Also, let's say the area impacted by the hanger on the head is 1.5 square inches, and the shaft takes none of the force. That would be 5 lbs. per sq. inch on the head alone. This is enough force to cut off most of the blood to the head.
Now, let's say you tighten enough to where none of the pressure is on the head, only on the shaft. The shaft well covers 9.36 inches. At the same 7.5 lbs., that would require 0.80 lbs. per sq. inch. on the shaft. Quite a difference.
The hanger has six lanes designed for blood flow. The veins and arteries within the penis have the ability to direct blood flow where needed. Just because the pressure is high on the internal structures does not mean that blood flow is restricted, as long as these low pressure areas are available.
I do not want to attempt to evaluate the degree of discoloration. You decide when it is too much. But I have hung with as much as forty lbs. without too much discoloration. What I would describe as a dark red. Not purple. When it goes to purple, you either have on too much weight, or the hanger is too close to the head, or it is not tight enough.
Finally, After you first put on the hanger and tighten a little, hold the hanger and pull out the head as far as you can while tightening the rest of the way. This will help capture more internal structures for the hanger to attach to. Hope this helps.
Edited by: Bib at: 8/28/01 4:07:41 am
Aug 28 2001
Time and intensity
The silence to this oft asked question is because the amount of time and the intensity of your work depends on you. No one can give you that information except yourself. Intensity and time are inversely correlated. As the intensity of the work goes up the amount of time you can withstand that intensity goes down (and vice versa). Your own particular physiology is correlated with time and intensity. The degree of fatigue on any particular day is a factor.
Some questions to ponder:
How much time do you have to devote to PE?
How quickly, in general, do you recover from the work?
Are you prone to injury?
Do you suffer from skin irritation?
Most on this board have started slow, at low intensity, and worked their way up to the maximum time they have allotted for PE. Then, they work on increasing the intensity of the work during that allotted time. In general, the greater the time and intensity, the greater the gains, allowing of course for appropriate rest time for recovery.
Hope this helps,